Differences between Mindtouch Comercial and Core

[carles.coll]

Hi Mindtouch,

Someone can tell what are differences between Comercial and Core, I'm refering on 2010 version, which of the new capabilities of the new version are only for Comercial and wich are for both, on the previous Mindtouch website there was a comparision Matrix.

Thanks in advance,
Carles.

[crb]

Core does nothing. Even the things that it does do, like "LDAP", it didn't do, according to the product matrix; this was explained as "we have a commercial version that does better, so we pretend the OSS version doesn't do anything".

[tobru]

I'm also interested in such a comparison chart.
It's not easy to see, which features are Commercial, which Open (Free).

Sometimes ago, there was a nice picture on mindtouch corporate or developer blog (I can't remember), that shows that new features introduced in a version will be opened to Core when the next big version with many new features comes. One feature I know was released with Minneopa was file reservation, but this feature has never been released to Core (except the API) and remains as a Paid Add-On. MindTouch changes his mind every time a new version is released, thats really sad =(

Another thing I really don't like are the many hints on MindTouch Core to the commercial versions. On the Control Panel is a huge message "Thank you for trying MindTouch Open Source Edition. Learn about our other products." That sounds like this is a "Shareware" version where you have to buy a license when you choose to use it daily. And when you click on the rating buttons in MT 2010, you also get a hint to the commercial version. Why not hide this rating button when you can't use it in Core? That's annoying.

[crb]

Well, either they fix it, or someone will fork it/maintain a patch set which removes these irritations...

[royk]

Core is open-source: feel free to modify and redistribute the source to disable those messages. There is already a thread in general discussions on how to remove the page rating by removing the plug-in call - I'm sure there will be instructions soon on removing the adaptive search message and the curation analytics report link for admins.

Three soft messaging points in the whole of Core to educate users about the values of 2010 is hardly enough to justify calling Core "nothing" - the level of work we put into Core for Olympic is far more than some give credit for.

The general gist of the product slicing from a functionality standpoint:
MindTouch Core + Desktop Suite + activity stream + performance module = Platform v.10
MindTouch Platform v.10 + Community scoring (page rating) + Adaptive Search + Intelligent Documentation Framework (IDF) = MindTouch 2010

Curation analytics is available as an add-on to MindTouch 2010.

LDAP and other connectors (Salesforce, Sugar, DB connectors) can be added to Platform v.10 or MindTouch 2010.

[crb]

Can I take this opportunity to question the placement of the period in "Platform v.10"?

Three soft messaging points in the whole of Core to educate users about the values of 2010 is hardly enough to justify calling Core "nothing" - the level of work we put into Core for Olympic is far more than some give credit for.

Lest you be talking about me, I haven't heard anything about what's new in Core, as all I've been hearing is "this is new in MT 2010!" I don't know if you meant it to be out in SVN yet, but everyone's getting it in their upgrade now, so the question will come up.

(I take it that Collaborative Networks are sooooo last year.)

[maphew]

The general gist of the product slicing from a functionality standpoint:
MindTouch Core + Desktop Suite + activity stream + performance module = Platform v.10
MindTouch Platform v.10 + Community scoring (page rating) + Adaptive Search + Intelligent Documentation Framework (IDF) = MindTouch 2010

Curation analytics is available as an add-on to MindTouch 2010.

LDAP and other connectors (Salesforce, Sugar, DB connectors) can be added to Platform v.10 or MindTouch 2010.

Thank you for this concise high level overview of how the products compare to each other. It shouldn't be buried here in the forums.

[royk]

All my release notes have focused on Olympic as a whole and not on the specific individual slices so far

But here's a summary of new stuff in Core: CKeditor 3.0, UI improvements to search results, page title editing experience (HUGE), tons of changes to the move page code path to optimize large hierarchy moves, package importer (automatic delivery of MindTouch pages into installs!), page gallery, and personal dashboards (which crb has already documented). As always, Steve's improvements to DekiScript are available to Core as well. There was a lot of plumbing fixes that went in - I won't describe them because I wouldn't do them justice, but they can be seen in the changelog on the Olympic release page.

There is also early support for a tree-based navigation (something we desperately want in Pipestone) - (config key ui/nav-type = expandable)

[carles.coll]

Thanks royk

[spoidar]

Three soft messaging points in the whole of Core to educate users about the values of 2010 is hardly enough to justify calling Core "nothing"

Honestly RoyK, the content rating is too much - embedded obtrusively in every page (twice!). Sure, this can be disable by adding a line to LocalSettings, and the comments block can be deleted from the Activity Dashboard template, and the Reports link can be hacked out of the skins, but let's be honest - people who want to hear about that stuff who are running Core already know about it, and really don't want to blast all their users about it. If it was only visible to admins, maybe it would be acceptable, but displaying this stuff to users is just not the way to ship open source.